He doesn't explain. Instead he wants to sell you a course explaining Ivey's live reads. Which I feel should belong to Ivey. Not to mention, the second one, Ivey gets bluffed on. Not sure what happened to Charlie. I used to like his stuff but this video is super cringe.
I learned nothing Charlie why would I buy your course. How can it be a read if you fold the best hand? Teach me something uf you expect me to keep following or buy one of your courses
The 1st was amazing and I would love Ivey to talk about it, the second was against a wild and aggressive Durr who raised with any two and was totally polar on the river with many draws missing, I can see why he was thinking about it, especially as he sounded nervous
One of the best reads for me is Patrik Antonius vs Mustafov in the Triton Poker 25k Super High Roller . Antonius, Mustafov and O' Dwyer the last ones left in the final table and after that hand i think he won the tournament .
To be honest, I dont think any of these three hands were played solely based on live tells, or even that it really mattered much. Seems like they were all based on solid fundamental poker logic than tells if any. In the first hand, Ivey knew what Lex was up to, since he knew Lex knew that he was isolating a weaker player (Barry) from the button. Lex even admits that after the hand. So Ivey decided to 5-bet knowing Lex probably doesnt have a hand to call allin. In the second hand, Dwan was betting all 4 streets from preflop to river, and there are very few hands he could do that with. Even with a set, he would be more likely to check-call at least river since Ivey is more likely to have AJ. In the third hand, Kitai was the preflop raiser, and could easily have KQ. It is not likely Chan would raise even an 8 against his range, what is he getting called by? From the way action went, Kitai knew Chan is unlikely to have KQ and unlikely to raise an 8 or even have an 8. A great call based on solid game tree analysis. I believe all of these hands would have gone down the same way even if they were played online by the same group of players. Tells didnt have much to do with any of it. However I don't mean to say live tells are useless. There are some hands where the play was indeed based solely on tells, and one that comes to mind is where Johnny Chan checks back flop and turn with Aces and folds to a single bet on the river by Huck Seed. Chan said later that the way Seed reacted after looking at the flop, he knew immediately that he had flopped trips. That seems tenable as the action cant otherwise be explained by logic alone. Live tells are useful but way overrated. Solid logic, theoretical depth, metagame awareness and gametree analysis are way more important than just looking for tells. It is not like everyone eats oreo cookies one way or the other depending on what they have. That stuff is for Hollywood.
Only half way through at the a6 diamonds I feel if dwan has it he shoves all in Leaving 280k behind is a bot weird Let me know if you think this is a factor in Ivoys thought process
I think with that board he felt it from the flop possibly, surely on the turn. Most people that play like that on that board have either nothing or the nuts basically. And for good reason...playing middle ranges that aggressive will lose money in the long run.
The first hand that comes to my mind is the one that involves Manig Loeser and Riess the beast that ended un calling with 10 or J high on the river. I dont really think it's "live tell" oriented tho probably just a question of preflop ranges but surely an interesting read/call.
You said in your talk at LSE you hadn't read any poker books, then stated that the books out there on live tells weren't very good, how would you know? Read Em n Reap by Joe Navarro is the greatest poker book ever written.
Charlie We thank you for all you been helping US and there is no other Poker pro but you that gives us the GOLD that has impoved our way of playing the game .
Imagine someone like Charlie on Christmas eve...Just run...This guy is so horrible..If you have a family an Charlie is inside- you don't need enemies anymore.
Ivy folded the hand vs Dwan. How was that a great read? And why are you teasing your expertise? You’re selling your course without showing us anything of value.
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Answer my fkin question..... Or are you some fake Russel Brand esq guru grifter?
So the Phil Ivey tell was thinking about it unless we buy your course? Did I miss something.
All that woo woo sounds like grifting to me...
Right. Yikes!
I'm not sure if I understood completly because I'm not fluent in english but you show the 3th and 2sd hands without any explanation of the tells.
He doesn't explain. Instead he wants to sell you a course explaining Ivey's live reads. Which I feel should belong to Ivey. Not to mention, the second one, Ivey gets bluffed on. Not sure what happened to Charlie. I used to like his stuff but this video is super cringe.
What's the line on money lost this weekend by recs 5 bet jamming 52o
What always comes to mind was Phil Ivey vs Phil Jackson Q high headsup at the Monte Carlo Millions.
I learned nothing Charlie why would I buy your course. How can it be a read if you fold the best hand? Teach me something uf you expect me to keep following or buy one of your courses
The 1st was amazing and I would love Ivey to talk about it, the second was against a wild and aggressive Durr who raised with any two and was totally polar on the river with many draws missing, I can see why he was thinking about it, especially as he sounded nervous
So you charge for every tell just showing clips
Anyone know if there is any video where Ivey explain hand and talking about live tells vs Dwan 98s?
One of the best reads for me is Patrik Antonius vs Mustafov in the Triton Poker 25k Super High Roller . Antonius, Mustafov and O' Dwyer the last ones left in the final table and after that hand i think he won the tournament .
Yes, I saw that and I agree.
What are the reads you are preaching in these examples or you just promoting your courses?
Amazing that Ivey didn't think Robbie cheated
where did he say that? yea wild
What about Patrick antonius on you?
The re-raise war with Ike back from like 2006 was insane
way better than most of these hands tbh
Ok so first hand , I do that once in a while , rarely but sometimes it feels right.
pretty rare for players at lower stakes to have 4bet folds
To be honest, I dont think any of these three hands were played solely based on live tells, or even that it really mattered much. Seems like they were all based on solid fundamental poker logic than tells if any. In the first hand, Ivey knew what Lex was up to, since he knew Lex knew that he was isolating a weaker player (Barry) from the button. Lex even admits that after the hand. So Ivey decided to 5-bet knowing Lex probably doesnt have a hand to call allin.
In the second hand, Dwan was betting all 4 streets from preflop to river, and there are very few hands he could do that with. Even with a set, he would be more likely to check-call at least river since Ivey is more likely to have AJ.
In the third hand, Kitai was the preflop raiser, and could easily have KQ. It is not likely Chan would raise even an 8 against his range, what is he getting called by? From the way action went, Kitai knew Chan is unlikely to have KQ and unlikely to raise an 8 or even have an 8. A great call based on solid game tree analysis.
I believe all of these hands would have gone down the same way even if they were played online by the same group of players. Tells didnt have much to do with any of it.
However I don't mean to say live tells are useless. There are some hands where the play was indeed based solely on tells, and one that comes to mind is where Johnny Chan checks back flop and turn with Aces and folds to a single bet on the river by Huck Seed. Chan said later that the way Seed reacted after looking at the flop, he knew immediately that he had flopped trips. That seems tenable as the action cant otherwise be explained by logic alone.
Live tells are useful but way overrated. Solid logic, theoretical depth, metagame awareness and gametree analysis are way more important than just looking for tells. It is not like everyone eats oreo cookies one way or the other depending on what they have. That stuff is for Hollywood.
Only half way through at the a6 diamonds
I feel if dwan has it he shoves all in
Leaving 280k behind is a bot weird
Let me know if you think this is a factor in Ivoys thought process
I think with that board he felt it from the flop possibly, surely on the turn. Most people that play like that on that board have either nothing or the nuts basically. And for good reason...playing middle ranges that aggressive will lose money in the long run.
The first hand that comes to my mind is the one that involves Manig Loeser and Riess the beast that ended un calling with 10 or J high on the river. I dont really think it's "live tell" oriented tho probably just a question of preflop ranges but surely an interesting read/call.
Great idea for a video!
Best read I. History is when Phil Ivey 5 or 6 bet shoves a paired board heads up in a tourney .
Audio is out on second clip
Wouldn't pay for the sound rights
It's there. It's only in the right audio channel. I had my left earbud in and it was silent. Popped in the other one, there it was.
You said in your talk at LSE you hadn't read any poker books, then stated that the books out there on live tells weren't very good, how would you know? Read Em n Reap by Joe Navarro is the greatest poker book ever written.
Great video Charlie, can you please do another one on the 3 greatest speech plays of all time
Ite but I don't want to brag too much 😎
@@CharlieCarrel Try being humble
Charlie We thank you for all you been helping US and there is no other Poker pro but you that gives us the GOLD that has impoved our way of playing the game .
But you did break it down... Tell us the tells
Didn't watch this video because I don't want to, but I skimmed through and missed the one where @Patrick Antonious SCHOOLED your ass XD lol
Great video Charlie! Gotta love live tells. Good luck with the Webinar!
Imagine someone like Charlie on Christmas eve...Just run...This guy is so horrible..If you have a family an Charlie is inside- you don't need enemies anymore.
A3cc easiest defend OTF hu imo
Ivy folded the hand vs Dwan. How was that a great read?
And why are you teasing your expertise? You’re selling your course without showing us anything of value.
Ivey always top!
Crazy,that Bencb talks to this scammer....😢
Wtf is all the Buddhism woo woo grift? So someone set themselves on fire once wtf does that have to do with poker? ..
First !
i mean nice hands, but this kind of stuff from you is why i unsubscribed long time ago
This is a waste of time.